Curse

Cerberus · Mar 20, 2006, 11:42 AM // 11:42

Title pretty much says it all,

Do we have a major bot problem in Guildwars atm ?

Reason i'm asking is i was in Droknars American district 1 earlier today ( around 10.30am - 11.30am GMT ) and saw the now usual monk lemming train heading out of the north zone portal. Didn't think too much of it at first until i watched exactly how many were going through. In the space of 3 minutes i counted 217 monks ( and all were a different name as far as i could keep up.) Passed through the portal, thats more than 1 per second.

So obviously Anet isn't as on top of this problem and i was lead to believe and droknars isn't the only place, Augory rock was another likely place to see the lemming train pre-griffon nerfing.

So my query is wot exactly is and can Anet do about it, surely this type of thing isn't helping the already flakey so called economy this game supposedly has, and wot with Factions just around the corner surely something needs to be done to kerb this type of activity. ( at least now i know how a lot of ppl get all these uber amounts of money / items, those that aren't ebayers ne way.)

Ok enough of my ramblings

plz post your comments, views and suggestions on this as i'd like to hear wot the community has to say.....

Wind of Horus · Mar 20, 2006, 12:04 PM // 12:04

Well you have to take into consideration how many people actually play the game, and are addicts like me... Im not doubting that there are bots but not ALL of them are, maybe a hand full, I see your point though.... the economy is dropping either way, maybe the real solution is to lessen the drop ration (I MEAN REALLY LESSEN) the drop ratio for rare items such as ecto/shards/golds etc etc.

The Herbalizer · Mar 20, 2006, 12:11 PM // 12:11

I couldnt care less about them. They keep my inventory well stocked

Jking but I actually dont care about them.

Cottage Pie · Mar 20, 2006, 12:21 PM // 12:21

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Originally Posted by Wind of Horus

Well you have to take into consideration how many people actually play the game, and are addicts like me... Im not doubting that there are bots but not ALL of them are, maybe a hand full, I see your point though.... the economy is dropping either way, maybe the real solution is to lessen the drop ration (I MEAN REALLY LESSEN) the drop ratio for rare items such as ecto/shards/golds etc etc.

any measure like that would only make the rich richer (they've already have a bucket load of ectos) and leave everyone else in the dirt :|

calamitykell · Mar 20, 2006, 12:28 PM // 12:28

My thoughts are there are 50,000 posts about it already, and it's changed nothing. Make that 50,001.

TimberOwl · Mar 20, 2006, 01:42 PM // 13:42

I care not for them, as long as they stay away from my farming group, and don't bug me to sell stuff. They can do what they want, although i have noticed a big increase on the US server.. Especially at droks.

Wind of Horus · Mar 20, 2006, 03:00 PM // 15:00

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Originally Posted by Cottage Pie

any measure like that would only make the rich richer (they've already have a bucket load of ectos) and leave everyone else in the dirt :|

Isnt that how it is now? People who arent in a "1337" guild never ever have a chance in hell to get one of those crystaline swords that go for mad money. Im not talking about just flat out owning the drop rate, just lessening it over time so people wont really notice.. You have a 55 monk, I have a 55 monk, everyone has a 55 monk so farming like an animal is no problem.

ophidian409 · Mar 20, 2006, 03:09 PM // 15:09

There are not much droppings neither gold nor items from trolls as I know, I doubt if farming trolls can get someone rich

Raptox · Mar 20, 2006, 03:59 PM // 15:59

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Originally Posted by ophidian409

There are not much droppings neither gold nor items from trolls as I know, I doubt if farming trolls can get someone rich

I've been hitting them up for EXP lately. I'm averaging 500g per run, I'd say. Once in a long while you'll get a lucky drop, but the odds really aren't in your favor if you're looking for quick cash.

I think the funniest part about this whole situation is that people are now spamming "WTB ALL YOUR MOUNTAIN TROLL TUSKS!" Sure, you can run stacks of them to either of the two collectors, but none of the items they offer is stackable. Thus, any sizeable collection of Mountain Troll Tusks is going to take you several trips to liquidate. But hey, if you have nothing better to do, go for it, I guess.

Let's see. A stack of 250 tusks means you'll get 250/5 = 50 items from the collector. Your inventory is, at max, 20+5+10+10 = 45 slots. So you've already hit overflow on one stack. I guess the best thing to do is farm/buy tusks until you get 45*5 = 225 tusks, then take them and nothing else to the collector. Once you sell the items, that run should net you 45*125 = 5625g, minus any expenses you incurred if you bought the tusks.

Have at it.

eudas · Mar 20, 2006, 04:22 PM // 16:22

monk farmers are annoying (lowest common denominator FTW) but really, by overfarming all they do is make stuff cheaper to buy, which is great, since i'm interested in buying. it makes it a buyer's market, which makes it suck if you have something to sell, but hey, it's gonna be either a buyer's market or a seller's market. in the end, it'll reach equilibrium as people tired of selling their farms for nothing quit farming, and prices go up. or, if it's the other way around (seller's market), people will get tired of paying jacked up prices and will make farmers and go get their own stuff, so prices will in the end go down. it works itself out in the end.

eudas

Kakumei · Mar 20, 2006, 04:53 PM // 16:53

What.

The word is spelled what.

about the bots i really don't care at all but really it's 'what'

munkyb · Mar 20, 2006, 05:00 PM // 17:00

The only bots that really irritate me are sale spam bots. The rest are just a part of life. I don't think I've ever played an online game that didn't have bots. Q1, Q2, HL, HL2, CS, WC, SC, WC2, D1, D2... hell, I think there were even some bots/hacking back in the Duke Nukem days. o_O

Mavrik · Mar 20, 2006, 05:23 PM // 17:23

if the only solution to take care of bot farming is to decrease the rate of decent drops...

well that just shoots the general population of players right in the ass. how the hell are we normal players going to find, earn and get what we want? I say make the drops more common so the actual need to have someone go farm for you is completely pointless...

dont feel no pain · Mar 20, 2006, 05:25 PM // 17:25

i dont realy care , sale bots can make me laugh ,

10k ok........ (me closes trade window)
(bot opens again)
12k ok!
(close)
7k ok!!

and so on and so on , eek run the bots are coming

Don Zardeone · Mar 20, 2006, 06:16 PM // 18:16

They don't farm only the trolls, they farm friggin everything.

One day I was in euro droks and got invoted intoa random group. There was 1 ranger and 1 monk in the group, the ranger was leader.
I asked what this party was for and the ranger said: "dunno, killin stuff".
The monk never said anything.

We entered Talos Chute and the ranger died. I hadn't even set up my skills yet so I had only 3 skills and died. The monk however, he used a boatload of skills, destroyed the entire team of avicaras, trolls and those big thingies who throw rocks.
He seemed to be an invincimonk of some sort but he killed everything at huge speed.
I tried to figure out what his build was but then one of the avicaras dropped a gold armour. It was for me but I was dead. The ranger had already left.

The monk just stood there for a minute, watching the rune he couldn't pick up. He then WALKED all the way back to droks and in droks, he left the party.

1. He went his own way.
2. He never said a thing
3. He got stuck picking up an item he couldn't pick up
4. Instead of using the map to go back to droks, he ran there.
5. He has some weird build that allows him to farm practically everything in there.
6. His name was similar to the names of the botmonks (they're all in the same guild or have the same cape).
7. He was a member of one of the botguilds.

So afaik, they don't farm just the trolls, they farm everything. I wasn't in the team long enough to get his full skillbar though.

Or maybe I'm just noob

morphium · Mar 20, 2006, 07:20 PM // 19:20

There are no bots.

Sir Skullcrasher · Mar 20, 2006, 07:37 PM // 19:37

I don't care about bots within GW. Even thought they farmed most of the time and sell items at outragous prices, still they keep the economy going!

bad person · Mar 20, 2006, 07:37 PM // 19:37

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Originally Posted by Don Zardeone

Or maybe I'm just noob

It would be much easier scripting a bot or macro to use the map to get back. My guess is that he hoped you'd get tired of waiting and leave the party so he could get your drop. Also, a bot wouldn't be scripted to invite others or accept invites to groups.

Syi · Mar 20, 2006, 08:07 PM // 20:07

They keep prices low. A+.

Klmpee · Mar 20, 2006, 10:49 PM // 22:49

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I've been seeing alot of posts about botters lately. My honest opinion about them is... LEAVE them alone!!! if thats how they wanna play the game let them play the game that way! o boy they are selling gold on ebay.. wow.. lets take a look...

man look how many people are buying them.... not.. look how many pages they are... tons.. and all of selling gold that no one has either bought it through buy it now or bids..

they ruin the economy? how? they are farming money. you farm money. maybe not as much as them but you do.

everytime i see something saying.. " report their account for botting" it makes me mad because hey thats how they like to play the game. SERIOUSLY people! how bout you play the game and not worry about how others that are playing the game their way!!!!

and dont say buying gold weapons ruins the economy because as far as i know the greens accomplished that awhile ago.

ending my rant about ranters ranting agianst botters ( wow that was hard to say

).
p.s. im sry if this kinda goes off topic form the op but i dont wanna start a new topic about this...
~~Klmpee

quoted by me in another thread.